Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'

[Andy Ng]

Tom, I've gathered from the past several postings that identification of an
insect within amber is rather difficult and sometimes subject to ambiguity.

For a change, let's try to identify an insect that's outside some copal. And
as we all know copal is rather young, so this insect as per attached photo
is IMHO, extant.

Andy

On 4/3/07, Tom Buckley <tbuck22 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>  It looks very much like the stingless bees that I have in Dominican. One
> other characteristic that this specimen has that is bee-like is the lay of
> the wings.....flat and horizontal. This feature is tough to see as the wings
> are up against a fracture.
>
> Tom
>
> Tom Buckley
> Silicone Specialist
> Polymer Engineering
>
> Phone: 845-258-4928
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* tamber12 at aol.com
> *To:* tbuck22 at optonline.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:34 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'
>
> Yes, stingless bees.  I thought I had one in the collection I used to
> manage.  Never got a definite ID, though.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tbuck22 at optonline.net
> To: tamber12 at aol.com; suzzyq4 at juno.com
> Cc: amber at ambericawest.com
> Sent: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'
>
>  Tammi,
>
>     That's how I feel. The segmentation, stubby antennae, and short legs
> are definitely bee-like. Have any bees been found in Baltic before?
>
>     In this latest batch of Baltic I've also a piece with a few active
> enhydros. I haven't heard of enhydros in Baltic before.
>
> Tom
>
> Tom Buckley
> Silicone Specialist
> Polymer Engineering
>
> Phone: 845-258-4928
> Fax: 845-258-4930
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* tamber12 at aol.com
> *To:* tbuck22 at optonline.net ; suzzyq4 at juno.com
> *Cc:* amber at ambericawest.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2007 7:54 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'
>
> The body segmentation looks "bee-ish".  That's a give away that it's not a
> fly.  Someone call me on this if I'm wrong.
>
> Tammi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tbuck22 at optonline.net
> To: suzzyq4 at juno.com
> Cc: amber at ambericawest.com
> Sent: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'
>
> SUZ,
>
>     I assume you're talking about the specimen I called a "bee". Are fruit
> flies rare in Baltic amber? I still think with those short, stubby legs and
> bib eyes that it looks like a bee.
>
> Tom
>
> Tom Buckley
> Silicone Specialist
> Polymer Engineering
>
> Phone: 845-258-4928
> Fax: 845-258-4930
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <suzzyq4 at juno.com>
> To: <tbuck22 at optonline.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:57 PM
> Subject: 'DRUNKARD'
>
>
> > Laugh, but that is what we call fruit flies.  They suck up all the
> > wonderful fermented nectar from the fruit and then buzz around as if they
> > were on a bender, ergo drunkards. It does looks ever so much like a
> > 'fruit fly'.  But an expert entomologist would know for sure.  The size
> > is right.  They are gnat like.  Some call them gnats.   SUZ
>
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