Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'

Tom Buckley tbuck22 at optonline.net
Wed Apr 4 20:43:57 EDT 2007


Andy,

   LOL!! You're a nut. 

Tom

Tom Buckley
Silicone Specialist
Polymer Engineering

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Ng 
  To: Tom Buckley 
  Cc: amber at ambericawest.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'


  Tom, I've gathered from the past several postings that identification of an insect within amber is rather difficult and sometimes subject to ambiguity. 

  For a change, let's try to identify an insect that's outside some copal. And as we all know copal is rather young, so this insect as per attached photo is IMHO, extant. 

  Andy


  On 4/3/07, Tom Buckley <tbuck22 at optonline.net> wrote:
    It looks very much like the stingless bees that I have in Dominican. One other characteristic that this specimen has that is bee-like is the lay of the wings.....flat and horizontal. This feature is tough to see as the wings are up against a fracture.

    Tom   

    Tom Buckley
    Silicone Specialist
    Polymer Engineering

    Phone: 845-258-4928
    Fax: 845-258-4930
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: tamber12 at aol.com 
      To: tbuck22 at optonline.net 
      Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:34 AM
      Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'


      Yes, stingless bees.  I thought I had one in the collection I used to manage.  Never got a definite ID, though.

       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: tbuck22 at optonline.net
      To: tamber12 at aol.com; suzzyq4 at juno.com
      Cc: amber at ambericawest.com

      Sent: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 9:59 AM
      Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'


      Tammi,

          That's how I feel. The segmentation, stubby antennae, and short legs are definitely bee-like. Have any bees been found in Baltic before?

          In this latest batch of Baltic I've also a piece with a few active enhydros. I haven't heard of enhydros in Baltic before.

      Tom

      Tom Buckley
      Silicone Specialist
      Polymer Engineering

      Phone: 845-258-4928
      Fax: 845-258-4930
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: tamber12 at aol.com 
        To: tbuck22 at optonline.net ; suzzyq4 at juno.com 
        Cc: amber at ambericawest.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 7:54 AM
        Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'


        The body segmentation looks "bee-ish".  That's a give away that it's not a fly.  Someone call me on this if I'm wrong.

        Tammi

         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: tbuck22 at optonline.net
        To: suzzyq4 at juno.com
        Cc: amber at ambericawest.com
        Sent: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 8:04 AM
        Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / 'DRUNKARD'


SUZ,    I assume you're talking about the specimen I called a "bee". Are fruitflies rare in Baltic amber? I still think with those short, stubby legs andbib eyes that it looks like a bee.
TomTom BuckleySilicone SpecialistPolymer EngineeringPhone: 845-258-4928Fax: 845-258-4930----- Original Message ----- From: <suzzyq4 at juno.com>To: <tbuck22 at optonline.net
>Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:57 PMSubject: 'DRUNKARD'> Laugh, but that is what we call fruit flies.  They suck up all the> wonderful fermented nectar from the fruit and then buzz around as if they
> were on a bender, ergo drunkards. It does looks ever so much like a> 'fruit fly'.  But an expert entomologist would know for sure.  The size> is right.  They are gnat like.  Some call them gnats.   SUZ
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