Amber Listserv / australian amber

Tue Sep 4 16:41:55 EDT 2007

hi guys,
thanks for your interesting mail .
its true that the source is not yet discovered and flow currents do pass down that way the amber is found.
The similarity to Borneo amber is interesting also, the looks are simular,  the aussie amber isn't rounded and or weathered from ocean travel, 
Another strange occurrence  is the amber pods (seeds that are totally amberised) which I havent seen in other ambers and not yet explained by scientists (here in Aust)  attaching photo.
If anyone has seen this in amber could you please send info?
There has been IRS test done also. and not yet matching.
Progress is slow but have just been up north with scientests and results will start to come in let you know when this happens.
If interested Andy, would you like to swap apiece of Borneo for an Aust peice of amber, we could do some tests to see if it may be the the same or simular? ie burn ,smell , polish? could be interesting.
Andy do you know which tree produced the Borneo amber?
all the best Dale

---- Original Message ----- 
  From: tamber12 at aol.com 
  To: andy.ng.aik.hoe at gmail.com 
  Cc: dalewicks at ledanet.com.au ; amber at ambericawest.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:07 AM
  Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / australian amber

  Andy, the amber Dale Wicks has found has been labeled "Wickite", but as yet we don't have a proven Aussie source.  It's hypothesized that there is one, it's just that they are only now getting to the point of looking for it actively.  Dale has been a busy amber hunter and spent much time in the bush lately.  He will have much to tell soon, I hope.  If it is found that Australia has a natural amber source, he's the guy that made it happen.  As it is, he's the reason we have all this Aussie amber to talk about anyway and I think it's all very exciting, however it got there.  Just think, out on a boat on the Great Barrier Reef, coasting up into the river valleys and getting out on a beach to dig around and look for amber.  Dodging crocodiles and other critters is your only danger.  I think I could deal with that.  

  Tammi

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Andy Ng <andy.ng.aik.hoe at gmail.com>
  To: tamber12 at aol.com <tamber12 at aol.com>
  Cc: dalewicks at ledanet.com.au; amber at ambericawest.com
  Sent: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:51 pm
  Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / australian amber

  Tammi, thank you for a very logical hypothesis (re: ocean currents washing resinites from the Indonesian islands down to Oz). It may well be the case, and bears further investigation. 

  Another possibility exists: that such resinites were produced locally over there by indigenous dipterocarpe trees. Darwin is rather similar in climate and vegetation to my neck of the woods. Maybe millennia ago, there were rainforest trees there pumping out resins as well. 

  BTW, if my foggy memory didn't fail me, I recall that Aussie amber had already been proven to exist and is named Wickite? It's only logical to assume that any place that supported vegetation in the past would have very high chances of having resins being exuded by injured trees, and said resins turning to amber over the course of time. Indeed, I'd be very surprised if any place that had supported vegetation in the past was devoid of amber. 

  Andy

  On 9/4/07, tamber12 at aol.com <tamber12 at aol.com> wrote: 
    Andy, I've looked into that some and I'm more inclined to believe it has to do with ocean currents washing the resins onto the Aussie shores.  New Zealand has similar resin finds on the most southern tip, and no natural deposits but if you look at the flow of current coming from the direction of the Indonesian land mass, the current is such that buoyant materials could be transported in that direction. Just my thinking on the case.  Either way, there is such a variety of neat stuff coming from Dale's finds that I keep hoping they will discover natural deposits there.  I believe some of the strata in Cape York is old enough to support it, and that in time it will be proven.  

    Dale, thanks for sharing and for giving us something new to talk about!

    Tammi 

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Andy Ng <andy.ng.aik.hoe at gmail.com>
    To: Amber Oz <dalewicks at ledanet.com.au>
    Cc: amber group <amber at ambericawest.com>
    Sent: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 1:19 am
    Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / australian amber

    Nice one Dale. I'm again struck by the remarkable similarity between Borneo and Aussie amber. Does anyone know if these 2 places used to be a single landmass with common flora?

    Andy

    On 9/3/07, Amber Oz <dalewicks at ledanet.com.au > wrote: 
      hi,
      hope all are good.
      l have been collecting australian amber for the past month and have found some nice pieces, attaching a photo of a couple.
      also an interesting deposit of lignite that has been dated as miocene in age.as yet no assosiation ith the aust. amber. 
      all the best dale

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