Amber Listserv / Leaf?

[Doug Lundberg]

It is not a lacewing, wing.  The lacewings have a much more cubical and 
regular pattern to wing structure. 

While it does look like a leaf, it still is my humble opinion that this 
is a "dendritic like" pattern that has resulted from a crack in the 
amber.  They are not uncommon in amber.

Doug

TOM BUCKLEY wrote:

> Nice catch Tammi! I don't have the Atlas, but hope Santa will bring it 
> this Christmas.  : ) I did look up lacewings in Grimaldi's Evolution 
> of the Insects and I think you may be right. The cell structure of 
> some of the wings looks very similar to what I have. What do you think 
> Doug?
>  
> Tom
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: tamber12 at aol.com <mailto:tamber12 at aol.com>
>     To: tbuck22 at optonline.net <mailto:tbuck22 at optonline.net>
>     Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:18 PM
>     Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / Leaf?
>
>     Hey Tom,
>      
>     Do you have Atlas of Plants and Animals in Baltic Amber by Wichard
>     and Weitshat?  On page 127 you see Lacebugs.  I have seen a few
>     inclusions like your photo in other pieces, and they really look
>     similar to parts of a lacebug.  I'm curious to see if you think so
>     once you look at their body structure.  Mayflies and damselflies
>     also have interesting and somewhat similar wing structures.  But
>     I'm no entomologist, just an observation I'm making.  Very
>     interesting anyway!
>      
>     Tammi
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: TOM BUCKLEY <tbuck22 at optonline.net>
>     To: tamber12 at aol.com; doug at lundberg.tv; amber at ambericawest.com
>     Sent: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 3:54 pm
>     Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / Leaf?
>
>     Tammi,
>      
>         A dendrite is a branched form of mineral structure which can
>     resemble a tree or a fern, or ... a leaf. I've never run into
>     dendrites in amber before. Most that I've seen look just like
>     fossilized ferns in a stone matrix. Very deceiving.
>      
>     Tom
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>         From: tamber12 at aol.com <mailto:tamber12 at aol.com>
>         To: doug at lundberg.tv <mailto:doug at lundberg.tv> ;
>         amber at ambericawest.com <mailto:amber at ambericawest.com>
>         Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 2:08 PM
>         Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / Leaf?
>
>         I don't know, I'm thinking it resembles a wing of something
>         I've seen.  I'll do some looking in my books to see if
>         anything looks familiar. 
>
>         By the way Doug, dendritic refers to trees doesn't it?  Ain't
>         that botanical?  ;-)
>          
>         Tammi
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Doug Lundberg <doug at lundberg.tv <mailto:doug at lundberg.tv>>
>         To: amber group <amber at ambericawest.com
>         <mailto:amber at ambericawest.com>>
>         Sent: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:52 pm
>         Subject: Re: Amber Listserv / Leaf?
>
>         Tom,
>
>         I would agree with you that the irregular pattern indicates
>         that it is not botanical, probably dendritic in origin.
>
>         Doug
>
>
>         TOM BUCKLEY wrote:
>
>>         Hi. Is this a leaf? It was found in a piece of Baltic.
>>         Something about it just doesn't look right. Perhaps it's the
>>         irregular cell structure. Aren't plant cells more uniform?
>>         Any guesses or comments are always welcome. Thanks.
>>          
>>         Tom 
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